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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 March 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Okay. If you were able to secure those orders—between 70 and 100 this year, say, and 300 next year—would you give an absolute guarantee that production would take place in Scotland and not simply transfer it to Scarborough anyway?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

We will come to the very specific issues about the landscape in a second, but the fact is that those conversations will not result in a solution in the next couple of weeks. You might be in a situation in which you are able to secure orders; after all, you are talking about between 70 and 100 orders this year and 300 next year, and a furlough scheme might put you in that position and help you overcome issues.

What I am trying to get from you is whether such a scheme would make a tangible difference. Can you give an absolute commitment that, if you are able to secure the number that we have talked about, you will continue production at Falkirk and Larbert in the short term, while those discussions take place in the months ahead?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

You seem to be suggesting that, even if you got extra orders, you would consolidate anyway.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

It does not seem to have secured those jobs, though. What is the value of that grant?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Okay. That is a wee bit clearer. However, you still require a minimum number of orders. Are you saying that an extra 70 for the rest of this year and 300 next year would absolutely allow you to continue production in Scotland, if you know that further conversations are happening?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Our next item of business is an evidence-taking session with the management of bus manufacturer Alexander Dennis. On 11 June, Alexander Dennis announced a consultation on consolidating its United Kingdom bus body manufacturing operations into a single site in Scarborough. It would mean the closure of a site at Falkirk and the suspension of work at Larbert on completion of current orders, putting potentially 400 jobs at risk.

Yesterday, the committee heard from trade union representatives. Today, I welcome representatives from Alexander Dennis: Paul Davies, president and managing director; and Debbie McCreath, external affairs and marketing director. As always, I appeal to members and witnesses to keep questions and answers as concise as possible.

I thank the panel for joining us this morning. What specifically would it take to keep production in Scotland? How many orders would Alexander Dennis require for that to happen? Is it about having a pipeline of business or a specific number of orders? What exactly is required?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

What is the number?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

How many more would you need next year to be able to run both sites?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

A scheme would allow conversations to continue, because, even with the best will in the world, changes to some of those things might take a bit of time—they will not happen in 45 days. You are having a 45-day consultation at the start of the summer holidays, when your workers are going off on holiday. With the best will in the world, you will not get answers in 45 days. This is about ensuring that there is an opportunity to have those discussions.

What would it take to stop the consultation to allow those wider discussions to take place? There is a feeling that this is a done deal, not a consultation. You do not seem to be able to say, “If we get 300 orders next year and 70 this year, we will hold things while we have those conversations.”

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Colin Smyth

What period does the current funding cover?